4.1.5 Rob Gruhl – How to Buy a New Car – Ignite Seattle 2007-8-8
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and dude, nobody wants to have only what they need. If that were the case I’d buy a 2-4 year old sub-compact with low miles and near mint shape, and I’d buy a small house, and get my clothes from walmart. I just can’t do it. Maybe I need to so I can put money into savings and invest alittle here and there but I can’t. i was poor as a kid and I can’t stand not having shit. I grew up in small apartments riding in old cars, wearing cheap clothes and I refuse to go back to any of that.
You say “an American car” as if you mean all of them. i had a 2000 model silverado that had 170,000 on the clock when I sold it. Every few months I nickel and dimed an oil filter and five quarts of oil and that’s it. I have a 140+ thousand mile mustang right now and no signs of failure. If you’re talking about a grand Am or a Taurus then sure, they break shit left and right from 10,000 miles or even earlier than that sometimes. My charger has 45,000 and never in the shop either.
An American car will begin to nickle and dime you at around 100k miles, while you still are paying on it, if you bought it new.
I would rather pay for simple repairs on a PAID FOR car, personally.
I don’t live in a shack, but I would rather live in a shack that I could afford, rather than the distress and inherent instability of a debt fueled, foolish life style.
As Proverbs says,”One man pretends to be rich, yet has nothing; another pretends to be poor, yet has great wealth.”
What? Who the fuck are you dude? a used import car salesman. I have friends with old civics (’92-’00) and those cars nickel-and-dime their ass to death. Some people want to look successful to the outside world, no one looks like they’re doing well if they’re driving a 10 year old corolla. I gues you think it’s better to buy an old shotgun shack house and wear hand-me-down clothes too because new homes and clothes are just as unnecessary.
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These are the comments a green pea sales person would tell all his friends on how to buy a car.
Internet has made it too easy to buy a vehicle without all the games. You can have dealerships who want to be straight forward and with all the games this guy is telling you to play, it will be counter productive to be a satisfied customer. You will always leave with a sense of disappointment everytime.
I’m not sure where the games come in. This all seems like resonable advice: don’t buy the high-pressure last minute add-ons, get multiple quotes, don’t buy a car you don’t want from a dealer that pulls a bait & switch. I’m wondering if you’re taking exception to the part about not signing things? Or perhaps you and your alcoholic pedophile friends are out of work because consumers are beginning to find out they don’t need you anymore. Tough call.
it seems every1 has a burito up their ass, this video is so fuken terrible
Well then, enlighten us. Why should someone continue to deal with a car salesman, who promises a price, and then backs out?
Everything discussed here is relating to *when* the salesman fails to honour his word, is it not the dealer at that point whose initiating a game? Or are you against a buyer calling around for competitive bidding?
I’ve sold cars for several years and let me just say. The average Salesperson spends atleast 50hrs a week plying his craft and crackpots like this guy spend maybe 10hrs every 3yrs. Common sense (?) here. Who do you think is more knowledgeable on the subject of buying and selling? All the games is unecessary. If you want a fair deal all you need is patience. Sounds simple does’nt it but that’s it.
This man is good, I sold cars and he is telling the truth…WOW!
5 stars, great!
The point is to find out how much money you can have for the payment you can afford. Once the bank gives you that number then you go to a dealership with that number in your head as the max negotiation point.
I’m a little dissappointed about the advice because it appears to be quick and comprehensive but it certainly does not guarantee you the best “value”. Examples are to ask even during the competitive bid for buyers outside of your area to offer incentive because you “have to pick-up the car so far away”. Free door mats, services, free tank of gas are also incentives that can easily save you several hundred bucks over the next few months. Do have the best leverage ask before you sign.
I’m in the market for the 09 Chevy Malibu. I take it I should have a loan from a bank or credit union first and then go get the car? Will the bank/credit union give me the money directly or make the check out to the dealer? So I guess I have to go negotiate a price first?
When dealers have cars on the lot, they’re paying above just the price of the car. Cars literally cost them more money as they sit on the lot. Plus, they get bonuses for moving lots of cars.
Exactly. Zero sum economics is not true–both parties benefit from a free trade.
at this point in the economy, car dealers are just trying to move merchandise. The factory gives them incentives for bulk sales too. They’ll get close to your price if your patient and stick to your guns. It’s about timing and motivation too. When gas prices were high, they were selling big engine trucks for $10-12000 less the sticker. Somewhere someone is making a profit.
is business if bought a car for 20k and the market is down plus u need money really fast for some gay reason u may wanna sell the car for 15k
so u rather get screwed then being a asshole.
When a dealer sells a car at “invoice”, they still make money. Google “dealership holdback incentives” to learn more about the process. Following the link to Edmunds, there is a link to get the current incentives and rebates in your area.
I disagree that “everyone is getting screwed” .. I get a vehicle for a price that I am satisfied with and they sell it to me for a price they are satisfied with – ether party can say “no”. Capitalism works (as long as politicians quit trying to “help”)